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Re: Plugins...ARE YOU HERE MICROSOFT?

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Posted by Thomas Lindstrom - DiP on December 14, 1996 at 16:53:18:

In Reply to: Re: Plugins...ARE YOU HERE MICROSOFT? posted by webmaster on December 14, 1996 at 00:44:10:

Thanks for jumping in here, Bob! I think it's more likely to soon have Santa here than MS.

: OK, time to step in. Now, this is Thomas talking here people. If *HE* is starting to feel this way, something isn't right.

Well, I wouldn't say that things in this mad industry *ever* been particularly right. But it seems like things are getting even lesser right by the day lately. - huh, strange English from this Swede :-)

What makes me irritated here is a combination of several matters:

1) I find that things are much more easily messed up in Windows95 compared with Windows 3.1
2) It's harder to fix them on your own
3) The way Windows 95 handles file associations in the registry is a Real Mess
4) As a consequence of *this* mess I can't even run Microsoft Explorer anymore
5) It's frustrating to find that Adobe, a company previously using very cautious installation routines, now has adopted the Microsoft way and grabs file associations all over the place with Photoshop 4.0.
6) When I installed Image Composer and MS GIF Animator the promised drag and drop between these two apps only crashed both of them (as well as a few others). The reported culprit is a DLL (RPCRT4) causing a lot of trouble previously.
7) A rather reasonable expectation would be that Microsoft could offer some help with this, when I posted my one and only bug report. It would sure help me as a reviewer, and it could also be viewed as a reasonable return for the work done here and on the DiP pages.

Without finding *any* information about changes, I downloaded the new beta hoping that it would fix this problem. There isn't even any information about changes and bug fixes or ANYTHING on any file after installing the beta. There isn't even a way to compare the old and new beta since Microsoft *requires* you to remove the old one.

This makes me very doubtful re the purpose of this Microsoft beta business. Does it serve any other purpose than being yet another part of the renowned Microsoft marketing tactics? If it does, why not give some information to those already running the previous beta????

(I tried to remove this DLL before installing the new beta, but it's obviously a crucial part of Windows since the installation refused to even start without it.)

: ARE YOU HERE MICROSOFT? Thomas is a VERY kind and patient man. MUCH more patient than myself (kinder as well most likely:)I'd like to point out, that Thomas and myself have tried to reach out to Microsoft BEFORE this board even went up. No response.

Your *are* kind Bob since you exaggerate my virtues like that. I'm not very patient at all, but I have learned to keep my impatience hidden until it possibly can serve some purpose. But more often: until I loose my temper :-)

> Possibly we should change the name of the board to Altamira Composer Board? Whadaya think?

Altamira Composer was a strange and weird, but beautiful program. You did not have to look very close at all to see that there were a lot of devotion as well as a vision put down into *that* Composer. I had hoped that some of that tradition should be moved over to Microsoft, but I don't know.

Thomas

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Re: Plugins...YES, WE'RE HERE Kevin Schofield (Microsoft) 04:07:41 12/20/96 (26)
- Re: Plugins...YES, WE'RE HERE Warren Lauzon 16:18:46 12/27/96 (0)
- YES, WE'RE HERE.... Thanks for the reply :) webmaster 13:47:33 12/27/96 (0)
- Re: Plugins...YES, WE'RE HERE Thomas Lindstrom - DiP 18:33:06 12/23/96 (23)
  - Re: Plugins...YES, WE'RE HERE Kevin Schofield 02:27:12 1/02/97 (22)
    - Re: Plugins...YES, WE'RE HERE Jeremy Lerman 09:31:39 4/15/97 (21)
      - Re: Plugins...YES, WE'RE HERE Thomas Jolly 12:38:33 6/06/97 (20)
        
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: Thanks for jumping in here, Bob! I think it's more likely to soon have Santa here than MS. : : OK, time to step in. Now, this is Thomas talking here people. If *HE* is starting to feel this way, something isn't right. : Well, I wouldn't say that things in this mad industry *ever* been particularly right. But it seems like things are getting even lesser right by the day lately. - huh, strange English from this Swede :-) : What makes me irritated here is a combination of several matters: : 1) I find that things are much more easily messed up in Windows95 compared with Windows 3.1 : 2) It's harder to fix them on your own : 3) The way Windows 95 handles file associations in the registry is a Real Mess : 4) As a consequence of *this* mess I can't even run Microsoft Explorer anymore : 5) It's frustrating to find that Adobe, a company previously using very cautious installation routines, now has adopted the Microsoft way and grabs file associations all over the place with Photoshop 4.0. : 6) When I installed Image Composer and MS GIF Animator the promised drag and drop between these two apps only crashed both of them (as well as a few others). The reported culprit is a DLL (RPCRT4) causing a lot of trouble previously. : 7) A rather reasonable expectation would be that Microsoft could offer some help with this, when I posted my one and only bug report. It would sure help me as a reviewer, and it could also be viewed as a reasonable return for the work done here and on the DiP pages. : Without finding *any* information about changes, I downloaded the new beta hoping that it would fix this problem. There isn't even any information about changes and bug fixes or ANYTHING on any file after installing the beta. There isn't even a way to compare the old and new beta since Microsoft *requires* you to remove the old one. : This makes me very doubtful re the purpose of this Microsoft beta business. Does it serve any other purpose than being yet another part of the renowned Microsoft marketing tactics? If it does, why not give some information to those already running the previous beta???? : (I tried to remove this DLL before installing the new beta, but it's obviously a crucial part of Windows since the installation refused to even start without it.) : : ARE YOU HERE MICROSOFT? Thomas is a VERY kind and patient man. MUCH more patient than myself (kinder as well most likely:)I'd like to point out, that Thomas and myself have tried to reach out to Microsoft BEFORE this board even went up. No response. : Your *are* kind Bob since you exaggerate my virtues like that. I'm not very patient at all, but I have learned to keep my impatience hidden until it possibly can serve some purpose. But more often: until I loose my temper :-) : > Possibly we should change the name of the board to Altamira Composer Board? Whadaya think? : Altamira Composer was a strange and weird, but beautiful program. You did not have to look very close at all to see that there were a lot of devotion as well as a vision put down into *that* Composer. I had hoped that some of that tradition should be moved over to Microsoft, but I don't know. : Thomas

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